Diskussion:Nordische Skiweltmeisterschaften 1931/Skispringen
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Werter Rolv O, der Schweizer Hans Schmid belegte den 29. Rang; Quelle: [1] (Seite 105) mfg TriQ (Diskussion) 23:10, 18. Jan. 2018 (CET)
Vielen Dank! Rolv O
Hello RolvO,
here is some information from my sources. I hope you like to include it in your article.
| Platz | Start Nr. | Sportler | Land | Weite 1 | Weite 2 | Note |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 26 | ? | Karl Wagner | ok | ok | 183,6 | |
| 27 | ? | Paul Henkel | ok | ok | 183,4 | |
| 30 | ? | Walter Wagner (Quelle: H. Wagner ?) | ok | ok | 177,1 | |
| 34 | ? | Max Kröckel | ok | ok | 174,0 | |
| 37 | ? | Werner MARTIN | ok | ok | 171,2 | |
| 39 | ? | Wilhelm Kuert | ok | ok | 168,9 | |
| 42 | ? | Walter Herberger | ok | 39,5 m | 166,0 | |
| 45 | ? | Matthias Wörndle | ok | ok | 158,1 | |
| 46 | ? | Gustav Müller | (ex aeguo mit Bogo Šramel) | ok | ok | 157,5 |
| 48 | ? | Erich Recknagel | ...49. ex aeguo L. Anderson + Walter Glaß I ...51. Simunek... | ok | ok | 152,7 |
| 56 | ? | Wilhelm Bogner | ok | ok | 123,2 |
Quelle:
- Sport vom Sonntag: Europa-Skimeisterschaften in Oberhof; in: Fürstenfeldbrucker Zeitung. Tagblatt für Fürstenfeldbruck und Umgebung. Ausgabe Nr. 39 vom 17. Februar 1931, S. 6
and some more;
definitely not started: austrians lantschner, delle karth and Reindl
67 started 132 jumps (65x2 + 2x1 [Burkert & Porkert?]) 23 falls in both runs (in your list 21) perhaps 23 with Burkert/Porkert ? best regards TriQ (Diskussion) 15:07, 13. Feb. 2018 (CET)
Vielen Dank! Hopefully, the site will be released again soon. Benutzer:RolvO (Diskussion) 23:17, 15. Feb. 2018 (CET)
By combining the different sources, I have the names of 70 competitors. That's three too many. i had fogotten to note one fall. Not counting J. Burkert and E. Porkert, I now have 22, 15+7. According to Svenska Dagbladet, t should be 15+8.
Enzyklopädia des Skispringens, Aftenposten, and Svenska Dagbladet, all have 67 participants. Enzyklopädia lists 3 skiers not mentioned in Aftenposten; Jansa, J. Burkert and E. Porkert. Aftenposten has 4 skiers not listed with result in Enzyklopädia; Lauer, Gumpold, Julen, and Schmid. Enzyklopädia lists many skiers not mentioned in Aftenposten, but most of them without result. Afgtenposten gives the lengths - or notes fall - for all those mentioned. Not counting those listed according to position in Enzyklopädia, both list the skiers in approx. the same order.
I find it reasonable to conclude that Enzyklopädia has the Programme as its main source, while Aftenposten reports from the race. Thus, when determining who actually did compete, Aftenposten has priority. That means that Jansa, Burkert, and Porkert are DNS. It also means that Krausser is the second skier with only one jump. Another source, I've forgotten which, listed two jumps for him. I'm adjusting the lists accordingly. OK? Benutzer:RolvO (Diskussion) 22:46, 16. Feb. 2018 (CET)
- Yes thats OK. But please list the uncertainties under "Note". TriQ (Diskussion) 21:44, 18. Feb. 2018 (CET)