Diskussion:Umberto Valenti

Umberto Valenti = Rocco Valenti?

In der englischsprachigen Wikipedia gibt es für jeden Namen einen eigenen Personenartikel und den Hinweis, dass sie gerne verwechselt werden, da sie gleichzeitig gelebt haben (geb. 1891 bzw. 1895) und da sie beide Gangster waren.

Wenn dies stimmt, sind hier einige Fehler drin.--Olivers Wiki (Diskussion) 12:56, 19. Apr. 2019 (CEST)

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Im Buch "The Origin of Organized Crime in America" von David Critchley findet sich kein Hinweis, dass es sich bei Rocco Valenti um ein Alias von Umberto Valenti handelt. Das Buch ist im englischen Wiki-Artikel als Quelle angegeben. Im Index steht

"Valenti, Rocco, Seite 112, Seit 127" und

"Valenti, Umberto: and Fortunato Lomonte murder, 100; one of 12 condemned men, 155; rivalry with Joe Masseria and murder of Valenti, 155–156; member of D’Aquila Family, 157; murder of Rosario Pellegrino, 288n173"

Zu Rocco Valenti: Zitat von Seite 112: "There was also a conference [...] 3 days before DeMarco was slain. A day prior to the hit, [...], Vollero, Ricci, Daniello, Esposito, Rocco Valenti, Bartolomeo Pagano, LaSalle, and the three Morello brothers (Ciro, Nick and Vincent Terranova) attended a final get-together. [...] Giuseppe Verrazano would point out DeMarco to Navy Street gunmen [...] To commit the act, Lauritano sent John Fetto, Esposito and Pagano, who were unknown to DeMarco. Rocco Valenti was also involved. [...] The Navy Street gunmen mistakenly killed Charles “Three-Fingered Charlie” Lombardi, who looked like DeMarco. [...] Esposito recalled, “All at once, two shots were fired, the man in front of me jumped and I fired at him. Pagano seen the men falling and he fi red at him . . .” Fetto fired a shot but contended that he was there under duress, a claim upheld by other witnesses. Valenti stood outside."

Zitat von Seite 127: "John Fetto made a full confession and testified against Terranova. Fetto was permitted to plea to first-degree manslaughter. Rocco Valenti was not present at the planning stage, and though selected to shoot DeMarco and Lombardi, he was not punctual. Similar to the Santulli case, there was no substantiation of assertions made against Valenti, who was released after spending 10 months in confi nement."

Zu Umberto Valenti: Zitat von Seite 100: "D’Aquila took revenge. A gunman stepped up behind and shot to death Fortunato Lomonte [...] Two D’Aquila men from the Lower East Side Italian community, Umberto Valenti and Accursio Dimino, were used."

Zitat S. 155: "[...] Gentile supplied another reason for Lupo’s anxiousness to make the trip. According to Gentile, Lupo, Morello, Umberto Valenti, and 9 others were condemned by the U.S. Mafia’s general assembly, “following a tumultuous meeting.”"

weiteres Zitat von S. 155: "Former “boss of bosses’ Morello’s decision to join Masseria may have been a reaction to D’Aquila’s move against him. Valenti was recorded returning from Italy to New York in mid January 1922. To regain D’Aquila’s confidence, Valenti agreed to remove D’Aquila’s chief rival, Masseria. That Masseria and Valenti vied for control over the area [...]"

S.156: "The struggle ended on August 11, 1922 when, [...], Umberto Valenti was assassinated. “Valenti, said to have been strong in his hatred for Masseria, was killed coldly and with as little compunction as one would swat a fly,” contended the Herald. Valenti was seen stumbling towards a taxi but collapsed, mortally wounded, on the running board."

S.157: "D’Aquila’s lower east side interests were represented by, among others, Joseph Biondo and (for a time) Umberto Valenti." (nicht signierter Beitrag von 2A02:8109:A280:15BC:5D53:892:B7D9:2F22 (Diskussion) 12:00, 9. Dez. 2019 (CET))